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posted by [personal profile] selkie at 03:15pm on 25/07/2006
Clearly I am the most cynical gay person ever. I am not gay enough to live as a queer/lesbian/gay/dyke/you pick your terminology.

I say this because I have just read the quarterly HRC rag and thought to myself 'Some of you in this prettyshinyglossy magazine are why 'we' get a bad rap.'

Ferjesus.

I do not go home and plonk down on my Pottery Barn couch and watch The L Word and boycott Haagen-Dazs and Poland Spring. In fact I quite like raspberry lime fizzy Poland Spring. I do not go out of my way to make every choice in my daily life a statement of my sexual politics.

I am a bad, bad lesbian.

Aren't there any quiet, stodgy gay people who still want a fair shake at civil rights in this country and a sane, mainstreamed childhood for their offspring and yet manage not to be so asekfno39jherfing crazy?

Sure, I'll ruffle if you poke me. Sure, I'll defend my wife and future offspring and I'll do my utmost to keep us all from being carted off in mysterious black vans on loan to the country' current administration from the set of The Handmaid's Tale.

But lord, lord, walk with me if my sorbet choice defines me as a gay being.
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posted by [identity profile] agoodshinkickin.livejournal.com at 07:36pm on 25/07/2006
Wait...what's wrong with Hagen Das?
They're owned by the same company as Ben and Jerry's now....
 
posted by [identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com at 07:38pm on 25/07/2006
Then apparently Ben and Jerry's is out too. Quote: "And sure, go ahead and enjoy a pint of Breyers ice cream. (Just stay away from Haagen-Dazs.)" (p.32)

This from a longer 'last page' feature on what to do with your summer vacation if you're gay.
 
posted by [identity profile] agoodshinkickin.livejournal.com at 07:43pm on 25/07/2006
They...they don't say why? That's just mean.
I did a quick Google to see why people would be unhappy, but the only thing I could find on a boycott of Haagen-Dazs has to do with Human Growth Hormone.

And while I'm not a big fan of HGH...It's ice cream. And ice cream is a tasty treat.

Though, I do agree with you on the whole "L-Word" blegh.
 
posted by [identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com at 07:59pm on 25/07/2006
Maybe the human growth hormone iswhy they're unhappy, but no, they don't say. It's blurby, colorful, splashy hysteria, and that's primarily why I object to it.
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posted by [personal profile] eruthros at 08:18pm on 25/07/2006
Actually, there are three different big companies involved there. Haagen-Dazs is owned by General Mills, but Haagen-Dazs stores in the US are liscenced by Nestle SA. Both Breyers and Ben & Jerry's are owned by Unilever. (Breyers Yogurt is a different thing, and was once owned by Kraft.)

I imagine that the statement re: Haagen-Dazs originates from the HRC Buying For Equality Guide, which basically ranks companies only by how they treat queer couples. (This leads to some weirdness, like Kraft being ranked highly when in fact it's part owned by Altria, the tobacco company.)
 
posted by [identity profile] agoodshinkickin.livejournal.com at 08:24pm on 25/07/2006
Ahhh. Well special interest groups will be special interest groups.
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posted by [personal profile] batyatoon at 08:22pm on 25/07/2006
If one's sorbet choice defines one as a gay being, what does that do to straight people who like the gay-appropriate sorbet flavors?

I foresee the spread of the term "mangosexual."
 
posted by [identity profile] dramawench.livejournal.com at 08:30pm on 25/07/2006
You have a good point there. It seems kind of silly to make each choice in your day depend on your sexual orientation. I think it should be your choice on how you live your life, regardless on any circumstances in it.

So there :D Eat your sorbet and love it.
 
posted by [identity profile] orange852.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 25/07/2006
So, this all means I am a gay-oppressing straight person if I do these things?
 
posted by [identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com at 10:46pm on 25/07/2006
I never envisioned you having a Pottery Barn couch...

In other words, I don't think you are. And in some ways, I believe in putting your dollar where your dyke is. Just... not so loudly!
 
posted by [identity profile] orange852.livejournal.com at 12:30am on 26/07/2006
My sofa is from Badcock Furniture.

I think that should be close enough to Pottery Barn that there is no overt oppression going on. ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] fizzylizard.livejournal.com at 10:15pm on 25/07/2006
You, Selkie, are a fantastic example of a sane gay rights person.

It's a nice change actually. Bravo.
 
posted by [identity profile] metallumai.livejournal.com at 10:20pm on 25/07/2006
I read the article too-- looked like a page-filler-- but I took it to mean that the "Don't patronise" companies had unfair hiring practices or were in some way hostile to glbt workers. I dunno. It can't be sales; the supermarket scanners don't have a 'sexual orientation' place to push on the little self-help screens....

heh-- and if you push the wrong thing, the ice cream is whisked off the belt and returned to the freezer by little robots, who 'tut-tut' disapprovingly all the way there and back.

Granted, the people in the HRC publication all look like Young Socially Impressive Democrats For the Upwardly Mobile, but I give them money anyway.
 
posted by [identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com at 10:49pm on 25/07/2006
Maybe it's the whole Young Socially Impressive Democrats for the Upwardly Mobile vibe that rubs me the wrong way about it. Like, obviously you have ALL THIS DISPOSABLE INCOME TO SPEND! And you're an IMMORAL PERSON if you spend it WRONG!

Meh.
 
posted by [identity profile] metallumai.livejournal.com at 11:00pm on 25/07/2006
It is annoying, true that. But I figure they have to look like that to be effective lobbyists; I mean, what congressman would believe ME?

I'm sort of apolitical myself, but I admit they (politicians) have their uses.

btw-- HaagenDasz and Breyers are both usually a bit pricey; I tend to do Store-Brand Vanilla, and load it up with fresh peaches or whatever's in season! Their little guide would probably tell me that the peaches were picked by oppressed migrant workers, but oh well. Oppressed migrants, oppressed gays, oppressed Appalachian ex-coal-miners working at the orchard on their summers. They don't let you pick 'em yourself much.
 
posted by [identity profile] elfmoogle.livejournal.com at 11:45pm on 25/07/2006
Haha. You bad lesbian you. Shame. How dare you eat that sorbet. *chuckles* I had no idea that food choices defined sexual choices. Strange.
 
posted by [identity profile] kraada.livejournal.com at 05:26am on 26/07/2006
. . . I had strawberries for breakfast for a while, then got bored and started having bananas for breakfast . . .
 
posted by [identity profile] elfmoogle.livejournal.com at 08:44am on 26/07/2006
Oh my! Whatever were you thinking!
 
posted by [identity profile] kraada.livejournal.com at 07:15pm on 26/07/2006
Well, first strawberries were on sale. The problem with strawberries and living alone is that when you buy them you have to eat them fast. So, essentially, I overdosed -- having a half dozen or more strawberries every day for a couple of weeks. Though I've now done two weeks of bananas, and my garbage can is starting to sprout fruit flies. So I think I'm going to do cereal for a while. It's safer.

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